E185 Benedict Macon-Cooney

Everyone agrees AI will change the world.

Almost nobody is asking what happens when governments built for the industrial age try to govern the intelligence age.

Benedict Macon-Cooney has spent over a decade inside the Tony Blair Institute, advising political leaders around the world on AI, state capacity and government reform. This isn’t a conversation about chatbots. It’s about whether Western governments can still deliver, why public services are getting more expensive while outcomes deteriorate, and why AI might become the biggest reform opportunity since the post-war settlement.

From DeepMind and SpaceX to healthcare, defence, natural capital and economic competitiveness, this conversation explores what happens when technology moves faster than politics—and why countries that fail to adapt won’t simply fall behind. They’ll become irrelevant.